[Journal of the House of Representatives, 1994] [Wednesday, March 2, 1994 (16), Para 16.10 Privileges of the House--House of Representatives Post Office] [Pages 204-205] [From the U.S. Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov] Para. 16.10 privileges of the house--house of representatives post office Mr. GEPHARDT, rose to a question of the privileges of the House and submitted the following privileged resolution (H. Res. 375): Whereas the House is on notice pursuant to Rule IX that it may soon consider a proposal to direct the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct to investigate the former operations of the House Post Office; Whereas matters relating to the former operations of the House Post Office are the subject of an ongoing criminal investigation by the United States Attorney of the District of Columbia; Whereas pursuant to its rules, the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct traditionally defers inquiry with respect to a matter that is the subject of an ongoing in- [[Page 205]] vestigation by an appropriate law enforcement or regulatory authority; Whereas the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct has on several occasions agreed to defer inquiry with respect to the former operations of the House Post Office, and has deferred inquiry in other matters regarding current Members where investigations by other authorities are proceeding; Whereas by letters of November 25, 1992, September 9, 1993, and October 26, 1993, then Assistant Attorney General Lee Rawls, then United States Attorney J. Ramsey Johnson, and current United States Attorney Eric Holder, respectively, requested that the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct defer any inquiry into the former operations of the House Post Office and related matters; Whereas on February 23, 1994, the United States Attorney of the District of Columbia delivered the following letter to the Speaker and the Republican Leader: Department of Justice, Washington, DC, February 23, 1994. Hon. Thomas S. Foley, Speaker, House of Representaties, Washington, DC. Hon. Robert H. Michel, Minority Leader, House of Representatives, Washington, DC. Dear Mr. Speaker and Congressman Michel: I am writing to express my concern that certain actions reportedly being considered by the House of Representatives could significantly damage a criminal investigation being actively pursued by this Office. Like my two immediate predecessors as United States Attorney for this District, Jay B. Stephens and J. Ramsey Johnson, I urge the House to refrain from such actions, and to affirm the paramount public interest in permitting the grand jury to determine fairly whether the criminal laws have been violated, whether by Members of Congress or others. My request is all the more urgent now, as this important investigation is in its final stages and will be concluded in the near future. As you know, the United States Attorney's Office, in conjunction with a federal grand jury, has been conducting a criminal investigation of matters that related originally to the operation of the House Post Office. That original phase of the investigation, which has resulted in the criminal convictions of seven former employees of the House Post Office and one former congressional aide, reached its most significant point so far in July 1993, with the guilty plea of former House Postmaster Robert V. Rota. With the cooperation of Mr. Rota, the investigation turned to allegations of criminal conduct by other individuals, specifically Members of Congress who conducted certain financial transactions through the House Post Office. This aspect of the investigation is continuing. As you also are aware (because of disclosures mandated by House Rule 50) in the last few months the grand jury's investigation has expanded to include additional allegations of criminal misconduct beyond those tied to the House Post Office, including matters involving the House Finance Office and the House Office Supply Service (known as the House Stationery Store). These relatively recent additional developments are now fully within the purview of the grand jury's criminal investigation. It is my understanding, however, that despite the existence of this active and important criminal investigation, the House may soon be asked to vote on House Resolution 238. This resolution would specifically direct the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct to investigate whether Members of Congress received cash from the House Post Office. Inquiry into these matters by a committee of the House would pose a severe risk to the integrity of the criminal investigation. Inevitably, any such inquiry would overlap substantially with the grand jury's activities. Among other concerns, the House certainly would seek to interview the same witnesses or subjects who are central to the criminal investigation. Such interviews could jeopardize the criminal probe in several respects, including the dangers of congressional immunity, of Speech-or-Debate issues, and of unwarranted public disclosure of matters at the core of the criminal investigation. This inherent conflict would be greatly magnified by the fact that the House would be investigating matters that are criminal in nature, and would be covering essentially the same ground as the grand jury. This Office had occasion to voice similar concerns during the operations-and-management review of the House Post Office that was conducted by a task force of the Committee on House Administration; yet that review as far more limited in scope, and far easier to separate from the criminal probe, than the investigation required by House Resolution 238. These threats to the grand jury investigation would not be lessened by the portion of the resolution that would permit the Committee to defer its inquiry as to any particular Member, if the Department of Justice stated in writing that that Member was being investigated. Wholly apart from the legal issues involved in the Justice Department's identifying individuals who are under criminal investigation, the idea of excluding the conduct of one or more identified individuals from the congressional inquiry does almost nothing to protect the integrity of the overall criminal investigation. That investigation encompasses the interrelated conduct of numerous persons, and cannot be divided and compartmentalized in such a manner. I and my predecessors have acknowledged the importance to the House of its ability to review and police the internal operations, management, and procedures of congressional institutions. In particular, we are sensitive to the special responsibility of the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct to examine possible violations of House ethical standards. Nevertheless, it is unquestionably the province of the grand jury to investigate, without interference, specific criminal allegations against particular individuals, regardless of who they may be or to what institution of government they may belong. Moreover, the vital public interest in fair and effective law enforcement requires that any such investigation be shielded vigorously from actions that might endanger its integrity. For these reasons, it has been the consistent position of this Office, throughout the life of the investigation, that the House should defer its own inquiries until the grand jury investigation is completed. I make that request of you again now, in the strongest possible terms. I ask the House of Representatives to forbear from any proposed actions or inquiries in the areas covered by the grand jury's ongoing criminal investigation, both in order to avoid compromising that investigation at this late stage, and in order to further the public interest in preserving the fairness, thoroughness, and confidentiality of the grand jury process. Thank you for your attention to this important matter. Eric H. Holder, Jr., U.S. Attorney. Whereas, the House should exercise particular caution so as not to impede, delay, or otherwise interfere with an ongoing criminal investigation that may involve its own Members; Therefore, be it Resolved, That the House supports the decision of the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct to defer inquiry on matters relating to the former operation of the House Post Office; and be it Further resolved, That the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct shall continue to consult with the United States Attorney and continue to review its decision to defer inquiry in this matter. At such time as the Committee determines that a Committee inquiry would no longer interfere with the criminal investigation, the Committee shall proceed, pursuant to its rules, with such inquiry as it deems appropriate. When said resolution was considered. After debate, On motion of Mr. GEPHARDT, the previous question was ordered on the resolution to its adoption or rejection. The question being put, viva voce, Will the House agree to said resolution? The SPEAKER pro tempore, Mr. HOYER, announced that the yeas had it. Mr. ISTOOK objected to the vote on the ground that a quorum was not present and not voting. A quorum not being present, The roll was called under clause 4, rule XV, and the call was taken by electronic device. Yeas 241 When there appeared <3-line {> Nays 184