[Journal of the House of Representatives, 1994]
[Wednesday, March 2, 1994 (16), Para 16.10 Privileges of the House--House of Representatives Post Office]
[Pages 204-205]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]

Para. 16.10  privileges of the house--house of representatives post 
          office

  Mr. GEPHARDT, rose to a question of the privileges of the House and 
submitted the following privileged resolution (H. Res. 375):

       Whereas the House is on notice pursuant to Rule IX that it 
     may soon consider a proposal to direct the Committee on 
     Standards of Official Conduct to investigate the former 
     operations of the House Post Office;
       Whereas matters relating to the former operations of the 
     House Post Office are the subject of an ongoing criminal 
     investigation by the United States Attorney of the District 
     of Columbia;
       Whereas pursuant to its rules, the Committee on Standards 
     of Official Conduct traditionally defers inquiry with respect 
     to a matter that is the subject of an ongoing in- 

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     vestigation by an appropriate law enforcement or regulatory 
     authority;
       Whereas the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct has 
     on several occasions agreed to defer inquiry with respect to 
     the former operations of the House Post Office, and has 
     deferred inquiry in other matters regarding current Members 
     where investigations by other authorities are proceeding;
       Whereas by letters of November 25, 1992, September 9, 1993, 
     and October 26, 1993, then Assistant Attorney General Lee 
     Rawls, then United States Attorney J. Ramsey Johnson, and 
     current United States Attorney Eric Holder, respectively, 
     requested that the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct 
     defer any inquiry into the former operations of the House 
     Post Office and related matters;
       Whereas on February 23, 1994, the United States Attorney of 
     the District of Columbia delivered the following letter to 
     the Speaker and the Republican Leader:

                                        Department of Justice,

                                Washington, DC, February 23, 1994.
     Hon. Thomas S. Foley,
     Speaker, House of Representaties, Washington, DC.
     Hon. Robert H. Michel,
     Minority Leader, House of Representatives, Washington, DC.
       Dear Mr. Speaker and Congressman Michel: I am writing to 
     express my concern that certain actions reportedly being 
     considered by the House of Representatives could 
     significantly damage a criminal investigation being actively 
     pursued by this Office. Like my two immediate predecessors as 
     United States Attorney for this District, Jay B. Stephens and 
     J. Ramsey Johnson, I urge the House to refrain from such 
     actions, and to affirm the paramount public interest in 
     permitting the grand jury to determine fairly whether the 
     criminal laws have been violated, whether by Members of 
     Congress or others. My request is all the more urgent now, as 
     this important investigation is in its final stages and will 
     be concluded in the near future.
       As you know, the United States Attorney's Office, in 
     conjunction with a federal grand jury, has been conducting a 
     criminal investigation of matters that related originally to 
     the operation of the House Post Office. That original phase 
     of the investigation, which has resulted in the criminal 
     convictions of seven former employees of the House Post 
     Office and one former congressional aide, reached its most 
     significant point so far in July 1993, with the guilty plea 
     of former House Postmaster Robert V. Rota. With the 
     cooperation of Mr. Rota, the investigation turned to 
     allegations of criminal conduct by other individuals, 
     specifically Members of Congress who conducted certain 
     financial transactions through the House Post Office. This 
     aspect of the investigation is continuing.
       As you also are aware (because of disclosures mandated by 
     House Rule 50) in the last few months the grand jury's 
     investigation has expanded to include additional allegations 
     of criminal misconduct beyond those tied to the House Post 
     Office, including matters involving the House Finance Office 
     and the House Office Supply Service (known as the House 
     Stationery Store). These relatively recent additional 
     developments are now fully within the purview of the grand 
     jury's criminal investigation.
       It is my understanding, however, that despite the existence 
     of this active and important criminal investigation, the 
     House may soon be asked to vote on House Resolution 238. This 
     resolution would specifically direct the Committee on 
     Standards of Official Conduct to investigate whether Members 
     of Congress received cash from the House Post Office.
       Inquiry into these matters by a committee of the House 
     would pose a severe risk to the integrity of the criminal 
     investigation. Inevitably, any such inquiry would overlap 
     substantially with the grand jury's activities. Among other 
     concerns, the House certainly would seek to interview the 
     same witnesses or subjects who are central to the criminal 
     investigation. Such interviews could jeopardize the criminal 
     probe in several respects, including the dangers of 
     congressional immunity, of Speech-or-Debate issues, and of 
     unwarranted public disclosure of matters at the core of the 
     criminal investigation. This inherent conflict would be 
     greatly magnified by the fact that the House would be 
     investigating matters that are criminal in nature, and would 
     be covering essentially the same ground as the grand jury. 
     This Office had occasion to voice similar concerns during the 
     operations-and-management review of the House Post Office 
     that was conducted by a task force of the Committee on House 
     Administration; yet that review as far more limited in scope, 
     and far easier to separate from the criminal probe, than the 
     investigation required by House Resolution 238.
       These threats to the grand jury investigation would not be 
     lessened by the portion of the resolution that would permit 
     the Committee to defer its inquiry as to any particular 
     Member, if the Department of Justice stated in writing that 
     that Member was being investigated. Wholly apart from the 
     legal issues involved in the Justice Department's identifying 
     individuals who are under criminal investigation, the idea of 
     excluding the conduct of one or more identified individuals 
     from the congressional inquiry does almost nothing to protect 
     the integrity of the overall criminal investigation. That 
     investigation encompasses the interrelated conduct of 
     numerous persons, and cannot be divided and compartmentalized 
     in such a manner.
       I and my predecessors have acknowledged the importance to 
     the House of its ability to review and police the internal 
     operations, management, and procedures of congressional 
     institutions. In particular, we are sensitive to the special 
     responsibility of the Committee on Standards of Official 
     Conduct to examine possible violations of House ethical 
     standards. Nevertheless, it is unquestionably the province of 
     the grand jury to investigate, without interference, specific 
     criminal allegations against particular individuals, 
     regardless of who they may be or to what institution of 
     government they may belong. Moreover, the vital public 
     interest in fair and effective law enforcement requires that 
     any such investigation be shielded vigorously from actions 
     that might endanger its integrity.
       For these reasons, it has been the consistent position of 
     this Office, throughout the life of the investigation, that 
     the House should defer its own inquiries until the grand jury 
     investigation is completed. I make that request of you again 
     now, in the strongest possible terms. I ask the House of 
     Representatives to forbear from any proposed actions or 
     inquiries in the areas covered by the grand jury's ongoing 
     criminal investigation, both in order to avoid compromising 
     that investigation at this late stage, and in order to 
     further the public interest in preserving the fairness, 
     thoroughness, and confidentiality of the grand jury process.
       Thank you for your attention to this important matter.
                                              Eric H. Holder, Jr.,
                                                    U.S. Attorney.

       Whereas, the House should exercise particular caution so as 
     not to impede, delay, or otherwise interfere with an ongoing 
     criminal investigation that may involve its own Members; 
     Therefore, be it
       Resolved, That the House supports the decision of the 
     Committee on Standards of Official Conduct to defer inquiry 
     on matters relating to the former operation of the House Post 
     Office; and be it
       Further resolved, That the Committee on Standards of 
     Official Conduct shall continue to consult with the United 
     States Attorney and continue to review its decision to defer 
     inquiry in this matter. At such time as the Committee 
     determines that a Committee inquiry would no longer interfere 
     with the criminal investigation, the Committee shall proceed, 
     pursuant to its rules, with such inquiry as it deems 
     appropriate.

  When said resolution was considered.
  After debate,
  On motion of Mr. GEPHARDT, the previous question was ordered on the 
resolution to its adoption or rejection.
  The question being put, viva voce,
  Will the House agree to said resolution?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore, Mr. HOYER, announced that the yeas had it.
  Mr. ISTOOK objected to the vote on the ground that a quorum was not 
present and not voting.
  A quorum not being present,
  The roll was called under clause 4, rule XV, and the call was taken by 
electronic device.

Yeas

241

When there appeared

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Nays

184