[Weekly Compilation of Presidential Documents Volume 40, Number 34 (Monday, August 23, 2004)]
[Pages 1587-1602]
[Online from the Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov]
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Remarks in a Discussion at Southridge High School in Beaverton, Oregon
August 13, 2004
The President. Thank you all for coming. Thank you all. Thanks for
being here. Go ahead and be seated, please. Thanks for coming. Laura and
I are here--we're here in your State asking for the vote. That's why
we're here in the great State of Oregon. Today I've got a unique way to
explain why I'm running for office again and what I intend to do, and
that's to talk to some of our fellow citizens about job creation, job
growth, the entrepreneurial spirit. It's one way to help make the point
to the people of Oregon that there's more work to be done. Then I'd like
to answer some of the questions you have.
But before I do so, I want to tell you how proud I am of Laura.
You're going to hear reasons why I think you ought to put me back in,
but perhaps the most important one of all is to have Laura as the First
Lady for 4 years.
These campaigns, when you campaign for President, it's a long
ordeal, and that's the way it should be, really. You should have to go
out and ask for the vote and let people know your heart and your vision.
It also means you get to spend some quality time with your family.
[Laughter] So it's great to be traveling with Laura. And one of the
really--joys for our family is that Barbara and Jenna are now
campaigning with us. It's like going on the camping trip I never took
them on, you know.
I'm running with a good man in Dick Cheney. I like to tell
everybody--I admit it--he's not the prettiest face in the race.
[Laughter] However, that's not why I picked him. I didn't pick him for
his looks. I picked him because he can do the job and his judgment.
I appreciate your friend and mine, your Senator, the great Gordon
Smith, for traveling with us today. He's a joy to work with. He's a
decent, gentle soul who cares deeply about the people of Oregon. He
understands this State well. He's a great patriot. I'm proud to call him
friend. I want to thank you for being here, Gordon. We just have come
from announcing a project to deepen the Columbia River so that the port
of Portland and Vancouver, Washington, can remain vibrant hubs of
commerce. I like to remind people, in the Nation's Capital, a lot of
them can talk a good game. I like to be the person known as somebody
getting the job done, and this project we announced today is getting the
job done. And I'm proud you're here, Sharon. Thanks for coming. It's
great to see you again.
And old Greg Walden showed up. Thanks for coming, Greg. He's a good
man, fun to work with. We worked on a lot of important projects for
Oregon, including the Healthy Forest Initiative. You might remember,
they've been talking about doing something about these catastrophic
wildfires. We actually got the job done through the Healthy Forest
Initiative.
It wasn't easy to get done, because some of the big talkers in
Washington blocked it. One in particular finally came out west and he
said, well, even though he had blocked it in the past, some of the parts
looked like they're all right now, you know. It's kind of like those
wildfires. He shifts in the wind. [Laughter]
As well, we've got a man running for the United States Senate from
the State of Washington. I strongly support his candidacy, George
Nethercutt. Thank you for coming, George.
I want to thank all the State and local officials who are here.
Again, I appreciate the small-business owners who are on stage and with
us today. We're going to talk a lot about small business creation.
It's good to see my buddy Molly. Thanks for coming, Molly. I want to
thank all the
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grassroots activists who are here. Not only am I asking for the vote,
I'm asking for your help. You see, we have a duty--we have a duty in
this country to vote. And one of the things I'm asking our supporters is
to register people to vote, encourage our fellow citizens to do their
duty.
You know, it wasn't all that long ago--I'm going to talk about
Afghanistan a little later on--but one of the interesting statistics
that came to my desk was the fact that over 8 million people in
liberated Afghanistan have registered to vote. This, in spite of the
fact--it's an amazing statistic when you think about the fact that it
wasn't all that long ago that a bus was stopped--the thugs from the
Taliban pulled over four women registrars of voters and killed them. And
yet, the people, because they long for freedom, said, ``You're not going
to intimidate us. We want to participate in a free society.'' They're
registering to vote, and we herald that.
We ought to be--we ought to have that same spirit in our own
country. And so, therefore, I ask you to register people to vote, and
when you get them headed into the polls, or in your case, by ballot,
head them our way, because we've got a plan to keep the country safer,
stronger, and better.
Thank you all for coming. There's all kinds of ways to make America
better. I'll talk about two, right quick. We're at a school. One way to
make America better is to make sure every child learns to read and write
and add and subtract. You might remember, when we went to Washington,
when my administration went to Washington, there was this practice
around the country in certain school districts where they would move
children from grade to grade, year after year, and the children didn't
learn the basics. So we changed that attitude. I went to Washington for
a reason, and that is to challenge the soft bigotry of low expectations.
You know what that means. It means, in certain places, the standards
were so low that what they got were lousy results. And that's not good
enough for this great country.
So I worked with Members of the Congress to pass new law that says:
We'll increase funding for public schools; we'll increase funding for
elementary and secondary schools by some 49 percent since I got there;
we'll increase funding for Title I students by over 50 percent since I
got there. But we also recognized that the issue is more than funding.
The issue is results, and so we raised the standards. We said, ``We
expect accountability in our schools, to tell us whether or not children
are learning to read and write and add and subtract.''
We believe in local control of schools. When we find children in
schools that won't change and won't teach, we demand something other
than the status quo, and we're seeing great results. The achievement gap
among students in America is beginning to close because we believe every
child can learn.
I'm running because there's more to do to make sure we continue to
raise the bar, to continue to insist on curricula that works. See,
that's why you measure, because you want to know. You can't solve a
problem unless you're willing to diagnose the problem in the first
place. So we say to schools, ``Show us early whether or not a child can
read and write. And if not, there's extra help.''
So that no child gets left behind, we've got to make sure our Head
Start programs start children off early with the fundamentals of
reading. We want to make sure our high school diplomas mean something.
We need intervention programs for children who cannot read in junior
high. We've got to be emphasizing math and science. What I'm telling you
is, after 4 more years, the children of this country are going to be
more hopeful, more confident, and have more of the skills necessary to
succeed. And America will be better off for it.
Let me tell you what else we'll be better off to do. We'll be better
off as we continue to rally the armies of compassion. You'll hear me
talk about our military later on and our economy, but the strength of
this country is in the hearts and souls of our citizens. That's the true
strength of America. If you really think about it, you don't find it in
the halls of Government; you find it in the hearts of people. And the
President must understand that. And one of my most important jobs is to
rally the armies of compassion, to call upon people to love their
neighbor just like you would like to be loved yourself.
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And so, today Chris Dudley has joined us. You might remember him
because of his exploits on the basketball court. A lot of kids are going
to remember him because of the basketball camp he set up. It's the kind
of compassion I'm talking about. We couldn't pass a law to say to old
Dudley, give back to the community where you're living. He had to feel
that in his heart. He had to say, ``This is a call that I hear.'' Laws
don't do this--from Government. People hear a higher calling. And those
of us in positions of responsibility must not only thank people like
Chris but say that we're willing to open up Government funding to grants
to organizations that exist because of their faith--all faith--so that
we can help save our society.
I appreciate you coming. Chris is one of the tallest soldiers in the
army of compassion. [Laughter] Proud you're here. I want to thank you
and Christine for coming. It's great to see you again.
A stronger America is one in which people can find work and our
economy is vibrant. Listen, we've been through a lot together when you
think about it. Over the past 3\1/2\ years, we have been through an
awful lot. We've been through a recession. That means things are going
backwards. [Laughter] We've been through a corporate scandal. By the
way, we passed tough laws. It ought to be abundantly clear to CEOs in
corporate America that we expect there to be honesty in the boardrooms
of our country. We got attacked, and all of this affected our economy,
affected our psychology as well.
But we've overcome these obstacles. We've overcome them because
we've got a great workforce. We've overcome them because the
entrepreneurial spirit is strong, and we're going to talk to some
entrepreneurs here in a minute. We've overcome it because we got great
farmers and ranchers in this country. You know, we've overcome a lot
because the soul of this country is strong. I think--I will argue
strongly that we overcame these economic problems as well because of
well-timed tax cuts.
Nationally, the economy is strong. It's getting strong. We've added
about 1.5 million jobs. Nationwide, the unemployment rate is 5.5
percent. Here in the State of Oregon, you've been struggling. After all,
your resource industry got hit hard. High-tech got hit hard. The
recession hurt. Your unemployment rate, however, has gone from 8.7
percent to 6.8 percent. It's getting better, but there's more work to
do. There's more work to do. And I want to share with you some of the
things that I think we ought to be doing to make sure this economy
continues to grow so people can find a job and to make sure jobs stay
here in America.
First, we've got to make sure we got reasonable energy policy. We've
got to be less dependent on foreign sources of energy. I've come to your
State several times, and I said one thing we must not do is to destroy
the hydroelectric power of the State of Oregon and the State of
Washington in order to have a reasonable energy policy. Turns out we're
capable of preserving the dams and protecting the fish, and we're
showing people we're able to do so.
In order to make sure we keep jobs here, we've got to have health
care, reasonable health care policies that make health care available
and affordable. I'm going to talk to these small-business owners, and
you're going to hear from--maybe not from these, but I can assure you
you'll hear from other small-business owners that they're having trouble
meeting the health care demands. Health care costs are going up. I think
one way to handle that is to allow small businesses to pool risk across
jurisdictional boundaries so that they can afford insurance at the same
rates as big companies are able to do.
We will continue to expand community health centers; those are
places where low-income Americans can get primary care. We'd rather help
people who need help in clinics rather than emergency rooms of
hospitals, in order to help the cost of health care.
We've changed Medicare. You remember all the talk about Medicare.
Campaign after campaign after campaign, they'd come and tell you,
``We'll strengthen Medicare.'' We got the job done in Medicare. Seniors
can now sign up for drug discount cards. If you're a senior and
eligible, I urge you to do so. You'll save money.
In '05, for the first time, Medicare is going to provide
preventative screenings. It makes sense, doesn't it? If we're spending
your
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money, we ought to be able to look at a problem early and solve it
before it becomes acute. And in '06, seniors will have choices in the
Medicare policy, including prescription drugs. It makes no sense, folks,
to have a system that pays $100,000 for heart surgery and not one dime
of pharmaceuticals to prevent the heart disease from occurring in the
first place.
We'll use technology to help modernize health care. I mean, health
care is like in the old ages. I mean, when you think about it, you carry
your file from room to room, and it's handwritten, and most doctors
can't write. [Laughter] We need to modernize the system to reduce costs
and to reduce medical errors, and we will continue to do so.
I'll tell you what else we need in this country. To make sure these
good folks can afford health care for their people, to make sure you can
afford health care, we need medical liability reform. You cannot be pro-
doctor and pro-patient and pro-trial-lawyer at the same time. You have
to choose. My opponent made his choice, and he put him on the ticket. I
made my choice. I stand with the docs, the patients, the small-business
owners. We need medical liability reform now.
Finally, in order to make sure we keep jobs here, we've got to be
wise about trade policy. There's economic isolationists in our country
that would like to wall us off from the rest of the world. That would be
wrong. Presidents before me have decided to open up our markets for
goods from overseas. You know why? If you're a consumer and you have
more goods to choose from, you're likely to get a better quality good at
a better price. That's the way the market works. And what we ought to be
doing in trade is saying, ``We treat you this way; you treat us equally
as well. Open up your markets to U.S. products.''
I've told the people of this State, if I got to be the President, I
would work hard to open up markets for Oregon farm products, and we
delivered. The agricultural sector of America is strong because people
are eating Oregon wheat--that's why. And they're eating it from all over
the world. Good trade policy will keep jobs here. We've got to be
confident about our ability to compete. We can compete with anybody,
anytime, anywhere so long as the playing field is level.
What I'm telling you is, I've got a reason for running, to keep the
country stronger. I've got an idea--I've got ideas to make sure that
people can find work. I've got ideas to make sure the entrepreneurial
spirit is strong in America. The role of Government is not to create
wealth. The role of Government is to create an environment in which the
entrepreneurial spirit is strong, in which people feel confident about
starting their own business and growing their small business to a larger
business. And we've got some people on stage who represent the
entrepreneurial spirit of America.
Our first guest is George Puentes. George is a--from Salem, Oregon.
He is an entrepreneur. What do you make, George?
George Puentes. We make tortillas. Good ones. [Laughter]
The President. Me gusto mucho.
Mr. Puentes. Esta bien.
The President. So, like, when did you start?
[Mr. Puentes made brief remarks.]
The President. Thank you. Let me talk about that. Thank you, George.
Let me explain that. Let me explain what he means. Part of the tax
relief, when you hear us talking about tax relief, part of the tax
relief was to allow small businesses to accelerate depreciation on
investment, which really means that there is tax relief when they decide
to spend extra money. That's what we're talking about, right? In other
words, we're saying to the small-business sector, ``We want you to
invest.''
What did you invest in?
Mr. Puentes. What did we invest in?
The President. Tortilla-making machines?
Mr. Puentes. Tortilla-making machines. [Laughter]
The President. Yes. So the Tax Code said to George, ``We would like
you to make decisions, investment decisions, more investment.'' That's
what the tax relief said. He said ``Okay, it made sense.'' He took a
look, and his business was strong enough that he could make an
investment.
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The interesting thing about investment, and you must understand
this, is that when somebody says, ``I'm investing,'' what they're really
saying is, ``I'm buying''--in his case, a machine. And guess what?
Somebody has to make the machine. So there's a worker who's benefiting
from his decision. He says, ``I want to purchase something extra. The
tax relief has encouraged me to purchase something extra,'' and so
somebody has got to make it. But not only does it help the worker making
the machine, it helps the workers in George's factory that he's buying
better machines. When he buys and upgrades his equipment, a tortilla
worker for George is more likely to find his work--keep his work. In
other words, they become more productive. Is that an accurate
assessment?
Mr. Puentes. That is extremely accurate.
The President. Whew. [Laughter] Thank you.
Mr. Puentes. Thank you, Mr. President.
The President. Just out of curiosity, did you hire anybody this
year, or are you going to?
Mr. Puentes. We've hired over 30 employees this year already----
The President. Yes, there you go. See, that's what's happening in
the country: Small business after small business after small business,
they're hiring people. They're adding 34 employees here, 34 there, and
it's adding up. And you know what's interesting? Most new jobs in
America are created by small businesses. And a lot of this tax relief
that was opposed by some in Washington, DC, was aimed at our small-
business sector.
We had a problem. The problem was the recession caused people to
lose work. So I decided, why don't we put policy in place that will
encourage the job creators to expand. That's what the tax relief was all
about, when you think about it. In other words, what people don't know
is that most small businesses pay individual income taxes. George's
company doesn't. He's what I call a C corp. But our next speaker's
company does. She is--her company is called an S corp or a sole
proprietorship----not in her case--but sole proprietorships as well pay
individual income taxes. So when you reduce individual income taxes for
S corps and sole proprietorships, you're really saying, ``We're going to
stimulate the small-business sector of America.'' And it's paying off.
I'm telling you, it's paying off.
Ready to go? Jana, you ready to talk? She is an S corp. What do you
do?
Jana Taylor. We manufacture cookies and cookie dough.
The President. Yes. That's why I ride my mountain bike, so I can eat
your cookie and cookie dough.
Ms. Taylor. And we buy Oregon wheat.
The President. Yes, that's good. See, so she's what they call an S
corp. She's a person that, when they pay tax in their business, they pay
at the individual income tax rate. So I said when we cut taxes,
everybody who pays taxes ought to get relief. We ought not to play
favorites with the tax relief plan.
And you received relief. Did it help? I'm not a lawyer, but it
sounds like I am. I'm leading the witness. [Laughter]
Ms. Taylor. No, it definitely helped. And when you get to go to work
every day because it's your own passion and what you do and love best,
you get to put back into the company which, again, fosters more
employment, more efficiencies, better productivity, capacity, and
technology. We basically put that money back into advancing the company
forward.
The President. Yes. You know something about Jana? She started her
company in her own kitchen. See, that is--what a fantastic story, isn't
it? That's a great story of America, when you think about it. You
start--you say, ``I want my own business. I want to own my own
business.'' Jana says, ``I think I've got what it takes to own my own
business.'' We need to promote ownership in America. We want more people
owning things in this country. If you own your own business--you heard
her, I didn't write what she said. She said, ``I wake up every day
enthused about what I'm doing.''
Anyway, are people eating cookie dough these days?
Ms. Taylor. And a lot of it.
The President. They are? Good.
So give us employees and all that, how many you've got?
[Ms. Taylor made brief remarks.]
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The President. One of the things Jana and I talked about before was
it's very important for Government to help people with something they
don't have enough time of, and that is time. They just don't have enough
of it, time. And we were talking about flex-time and comp-time rules. It
turns out the Federal Government, in case you don't know this, needs to
pass a law that will allow many businesses--enable their workers to have
flex-time rules, which means you can figure out--gear your own schedule
to meet your own needs, or comp-time rules, which will allow you to take
some overtime for your own personal use. You can change overtime pay for
extra time to be with your family or to be with a loved one or to go
back to school, whatever you may think you want to do. And Jana and I
were talking about it. You've done some of that in your own company?
Ms. Taylor. Within the boundaries of the legal and opportunity----
The President. Of course within the boundaries of law. [Laughter]
We're not diming you out here. [Laughter]
[Ms. Taylor made further remarks.]
The President. Yes, it's called flex-time. Congress--we'll work with
Congress. One reason I'm running again is to put rules in place to not
only help the entrepreneur but, more importantly, help the workers be
able to balance their own time so they can do--[applause].
Thanks, Jana. Good luck. I'm really proud of your story.
See, when you hear people say, ``I started my company at the kitchen
table,'' that spirit must exist in this country for a long time coming.
It's called the entrepreneurial spirit. That's what that means.
We're with Kathy LaCompte. Kathy is a tree grower. Yes, there's a
lot of trees. So what kind of trees?
Kathy LaCompte. We grow trees from seed, and we support the
Christmas tree farms, the timber industry, and the wholesale nursery
industry here in Oregon.
The President. Very good. You're the seedling provider.
Ms. LaCompte. I'm the seedling provider. You're the seedling grower.
We could work together.
The President. See, I told her we have a tree farm on our ranch in
Crawford. [Laughter] It turns out the trees--seedlings she raises won't
survive where we live. [Laughter] Let me ask you--employees--give us a
sense for your business.
Ms. LaCompte. We have 17 employees year-round. And we bump up to
around 65 employees during our harvest season, which is the first
quarter of every year.
The President. Right, and how so--how is your outlook? Upbeat, not
so upbeat?
Ms. LaCompte. We've had a good outlook. Your Healthy Forests
Restoration Initiative was a good help for us.
The President. Yes, good.
Ms. LaCompte. When we can manage those forests wisely, they can be
replanted. Oregon has very strict replanting laws, and so we can provide
the seedlings for that replanting. That helps our nursery.
The President. That's good, yes. It turns out trees are a renewable
resource that can and must be looked after. It's interesting, if you
just let them sit there and rot, they turn into kindling. [Laughter] And
some of the most dramatic memories of my Presidency were flying over the
fires in Oregon last summer. I mean, it was--it's unbelievable. It was--
it's an imagery that a lot of people out East need to see before they
make policy, so they understand the consequences of bad policy.
[Applause] All right.
Kathy and I were also talking about health care. She--there's an
interesting new product available for our citizens, and they're called
health savings accounts. Basically what it means is, is that you buy a
catastrophic plan with a high deductible and that you then contribute
tax-free from zero to the limits of your deductible, and you can earn
that money tax-free. It's your money. If you don't spend that money in
the year in which you contribute it, you roll it over tax-free. So you,
in essence, have a savings account for health. And yet if things get
rough, there's a catastrophic plan to take care of your health care.
That's what we want.
And these plans really do a couple of things. One, they make sure
that the patient and the doctor are central to the health care
decisionmaking process in the country. But they're also an innovative
way to hold down
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costs. And the other thing is, is that since it's your money, you see
how much money you have in your health account; you're probably going to
make wiser decisions with your body. In other words, it's part of making
sure that you make good choices so that you end up saving money from
that which you contributed.
Interestingly enough, Kathy has one of these accounts. Has it
worked?
Ms. LaCompte. It has worked. We had a MSA, a medical savings
account, when they were first introduced probably 12 or 15 years ago,
and it's worked really well for us. And so we were really anxious to
have one of those available for employees. So we've been investigating
that, and I think we'll go ahead and invest in that for our employees.
The President. Yes, you ought to look at it. I urge small-business
owners to look at health savings accounts. It's a way to hold down
costs. You can contribute, along with your employee--it depends upon
your choice. You can contribute into the account itself, but the
employee--this is a portable account, obviously. The person owns the
account. We have a different--we have a changing world, when you think
about it. People are going from job to job, and it makes sense for them
to be able to carry a health care policy with them from job to job--part
of an ownership society.
You investing in anything this year?
Ms. LaCompte. We did invest this year. We were able to build a new
packing facility and office complex. And it's just lovely, and we're
really happy.
The President. She showed me a picture of it. It is spectacular.
Ms. LaCompte. It is. It's wonderful.
The President. Did you build it yourself? Or did you actually hire
somebody?
Ms. LaCompte. We had some people help----
The President. That's how the economy works. She has a--the picture
I hope we're beginning to paint is, is that there are millions of
decisions that take place throughout our economy because the Tax Code
has encouraged these decisions, which, in turn, stimulates growth.
Somebody had to come and build the place. You just heard her. She didn't
do it herself. She actually paid somebody. Somebody had to buy the
nails. In other words, that's how the economy works. Government's role
is to provide economic stimulus to encourage people's decisionmaking,
which then leads to jobs, and that's precisely what we've done.
And in this campaign, I urge people to be careful about falling prey
to the rhetoric, ``I am going to spend this money and pay for it by
taxing the rich.'' That's what you're hearing again, isn't it? That's
political rhetoric. So, I'm running against a fellow, he's made about
$2.2 trillion of new promises. [Laughter] And we've still got September
and October to go. [Laughter] And so they said to him, ``So how are you
going to pay for it?'' they said. They said, ``How are you going to pay
for it?'' He said, ``Well, we're going to tax the rich.'' Remember, when
you tax the rich, you're taxing S corps and sole proprietorships. When
you start running up those tax rates on individuals, the people who
start paying are the small-business owners. I told you, by far, the vast
majority of small businesses in America are sole proprietorships or S
corps. And if they are halfway successful, he's running the taxes up on
them. And why would you want to be taxing the job creators of America?
It's bad economic policy to run up the taxes.
I'll give you one other thought. Let me just leave you with one
other thought about taxing the rich. You know how that works. A lot of
the rich are able to get accountants, so they don't--they're able to
dodge. You've seen it before. We're going to tax the rich, and then they
figure out how not to get taxed. And so guess who ends up paying? You
do. And we're not going to let him do it to us. We're not going to let
him wreck that economy by running up our taxes.
Okay, hold on. We've got more work to do here. We've got more work
to do. Right, Vail?
Vail Horton. Yes, sir.
The President. Vail Horton. I want you to hear this story. This is a
fabulous story of an entrepreneur. Tell us your story, Vail.
[Mr. Horton made brief remarks.]
The President. One thing you do have is a heart and a soul and the
desire to improve yourself. And I hope your business does well.
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Listen, what a fantastic country, isn't it, where somebody has got a
dream and says, ``I'm going to overcome obstacles and work to realize my
dream.'' He's expanding. He's growing. The tax relief has helped on the
investment side. I'll tell you why: Because people can take a tax
deduction on the investment they make when they buy a piece of his
equipment. In other words, it's stimulated demand for his products. And
this guy is going to make it. There's no doubt in my mind. Thanks for
coming.
Listen, I appreciate you all coming. I want to talk about one other
thing right quick, and that is--it's important to talk about our
economy, but one way to make sure we continue to grow is to keep us
safe. That's my most solemn duty, is to work to keep the country safe.
First of all, you've got to know, nobody wants to be a war President.
It's--I just can't imagine anybody saying, ``Gosh, I wish war would
happen on my watch.'' It's tough on the country to be at war, and this
is a war that came to us not because of our asking, by the way. It came
because of an enemy which cannot stand what we stand for, and that's
freedom--freedom to worship the way you want, freedom to realize your
dreams.
I want to share some lessons that are critical to our security and
to peace. First, the nature of this enemy is--it's hard for us to
understand in America. These are coldblooded killers. You cannot
negotiate with these people. You cannot reason. You cannot hope for the
best. We must bring them to justice before they hurt us again.
[Applause] Thank you. You can't show weakness to these people. You
cannot show weakness. That's the nature of these folks.
Second lesson is, is that this is a different kind of war. This is
the kind of war where these people will hide in dark corners of the
world or find a cave and plot and plan. They're patient. They'll wait
until they find a moment, and they'll strike. And therefore, in order to
secure our country, we must not only bring them to justice; we must say
to those who provide them safe harbor, ``You're equally as guilty as the
terrorists who have conducted the raids.'' And when you say something,
you better mean it, in order to make the world a more peaceful place.
So I said to the Taliban, ``You're harboring these folks. Give it
up.'' And they defied us, and we took action. We gave them a chance. The
use of our military is the last option for a President--the last option.
And they had their choice, and they refused to listen to America and our
allies and friends, and we removed them from power. And as a result,
Afghanistan is no longer a training base for Al Qaida. Remember, they
had trained thousands of people there. They're an ally in the war on
terror. It's hard to envision that after 4 short years, they're now
heading to Presidential elections. That's an amazing thought, isn't it?
The world is better off. America is safer because of the actions we took
in Afghanistan. And equally as important, the people in that country are
better off.
I was in Cleveland, Ohio, the other evening for the International
Children's Games. And I was welcoming children from all around the
world, and right in my vision--I'm talking front row--was the Afghan
girls soccer team. And I can assure you their life has improved so
dramatically from the days in which their mothers would be summarily
whipped in public because they held a belief in stark contrast to the
dim vision of those barbarians who were running Afghanistan.
The third lesson is that when we see a threat, we must take it
seriously before it fully materializes. That's a lesson of September the
11th. And that is a vital lesson of September the 11th, and that is a
lesson this country must never forget. See, you cannot hope for the best
with these people. If we see a threat, we must deal with it, always
first through diplomacy. And that helps explain some of the rationale
for the decision I made on Saddam Hussein.
See, we saw a threat in Saddam Hussein. Now, remember his history.
He had used weapons of mass destruction. That meant he was a threat,
because one of the most dangerous parts of this new war is that there is
an enemy who will chop somebody's head off, just like that, who would
love to get ahold of weapons of mass destruction to inflict even greater
damage than the deeds they did on September the 11th. That's the nature
of these people.
And so we saw a threat. He was the guy who had used them. He was a
sworn enemy
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of America. He had actually paid families of suicide bombers. That's the
ultimate terrorist act, isn't it, to go kill innocent people as a
suicider, and he was willing to subsidize their families. He had
terrorist organizations inside his country. Make no mistake about it. A
guy named Abu Nidal, a fierce terrorist who killed a guy named Leon
Klinghoffer because he happened to be Jewish--his organization did--they
were in and out of Baghdad. Zarqawi--he's the person who has ordered the
beheading of innocent people in order to shake our will--he was in and
out of Baghdad. These are terrorist organizations. So we saw a threat.
But I recognized that it was important to bring the country together
as best as possible on this issue. So I went to the United States
Congress, and I said, ``Look, we see a threat, and we see the lessons of
September the 11th. What do you think?'' And so the Congress looked at
the intelligence, and they remembered the facts. Members of both
political parties looked at the intelligence. My opponent looked at the
very same intelligence and came to the same conclusion I had come to,
that Saddam Hussein was a threat.
I also knew we ought to work the diplomatic front, so I went to the
United Nations. And I stood in front of the United Nations and said,
``Listen, we think Saddam Hussein is a threat, and you've said he had
been a threat year after year, resolution after resolution. And the
world has changed after September the 11th, so why don't we collectively
deal with him?'' And they passed a resolution, on a 15-to-nothing basis,
that said Saddam's a threat; he must disclose, disarm, or face serious
consequences. That's exactly what the resolution said.
And so we had a diplomatic front, sent the message to Saddam
Hussein. He defied the world. He said--I can't put words in the fellow's
mouth, but it seemed like he said, ``Who cares what you say?'' And we
said, ``Well, let's--why don't we send inspectors. Let's go send
inspectors in to find out the truth.'' And he systematically deceived
the inspectors.
So I'm left with a choice. We've tried diplomacy. We've tried
inspections. This guy doesn't really care what the free world has told
him. Do I trust a madman? Do I forget the lessons of September the 11th?
Or do I take action necessary to defend our country? Given that choice,
I will defend America.
Knowing what I know today--see, I thought we were going to find
stockpiles. So did everybody else, you know. They might be. We haven't
found them yet, I recognize that. But we do know he had the capability
of making weapons. And after September the 11th, how could we take a
risk that he wouldn't pass that capability on to an enemy. I do know
that the minute the world, once again, had passed a resolution and
nothing happened, he would be emboldened and strengthened with that
capability. Knowing what I know today, I would make the same decision.
[Applause] Thank you all. And the world is better off because Saddam
Hussein sits in a prison cell. We're a safer country.
You know, it's an interesting--we've had an interesting dialog in
this campaign thus far. My opponent voted for the resolution. Then the
Democrat primary came about, and he declared himself the antiwar
candidate. [Laughter] And then he finally said, ``Knowing what we know
today, I would have continued to vote for the Iraq resolution.'' So he's
been there, not been there, been there. We've got 80 days left. There's
no telling what his position will be. [Laughter] But I think it's
important that everybody understand clearly where people stand when
you're running for President of the United States.
A couple of other points. I want to thank our troops. It's--we've
got a great military. [Applause] Thank you all. And thank our veterans
who are here too.
Okay. Got a little more to go here. [Laughter] I'm just getting
wound up. So anytime we put our troops into harm's way, they deserve the
full support of our Government. During--I just want to remind everybody
about the facts. I submitted a supplemental funding request to the
Congress in September of last year to make sure our troops had body
armor and spare parts, fuel, ammunition, the things necessary to be able
to do their mission. It passed the Congress--overwhelmingly passed the
Congress. Members of both political parties supported the request. In
the United States Senate, as Gordon might recall, only 12 Senators voted
against it, 2 of whom are my opponent and
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his runningmate--voted against funding for our troops in combat.
Audience members. Boo-o-o!
The President. So when asked, his explanation was, ``I actually did
vote for the $87 billion, right before I voted against it.'' [Laughter]
End quote. He went on to say, ``Well''--when pressed, he said, well,
he's proud of the vote, and then said, well, it was a complicated
matter. [Laughter] There's nothing complicated about giving our troops
that which they need to do their mission.
A couple of other points--let me make a couple of other points, and
I'll answer some questions. There's a lot of talk about coalitions, and
we need to work with our friends and allies in this different kind of
war because you've got to share intelligence, and you've got to work
with your friends and allies to cut off money and deny people sanctuary
and access. And it requires close collaboration, and that's what we're
doing. That's what we're doing. I talk to Tony Blair all the time. He
and I are from, I would say, different parts of the political spectrum,
but we share a same understanding of the world in which we live, that
we've got to be firm and diligent in running down these enemies, and
we've got to deny them safe harbor, and we've got to spread freedom.
And I think it's wrong to denigrate the contributions of our allies
in Iraq by saying that there is no coalition, we're going it alone.
There's over 30--about 30 nations involved. These strong leaders, from
Italy to Japan to South Korea--all around the world--have joined with
the United States. We ought not to be denigrating their contribution. We
ought to be thanking the moms and dads of those countries whose sons and
daughters are in harm way.
Audience members. Four more years! Four more years! Four more years!
The President. Okay, hold on. We're running out of time here. I've
still got more to say--[laughter]--much to Laura's chagrin. [Laughter]
People say, ``How long are they going to be there?'' They will be
there until we complete the mission in Afghanistan and Iraq. The mission
is a country that can defend itself, and a free country. That's the
mission. I talk to parents all the time. I say, ``Listen, I want your
child home as quickly as possible.'' But we must not send mixed signals.
We must stay the course until the job is done.
The other day, my opponent said in the heat of political--in the
heat of the political arena, said, ``Well, they'll--if I'm elected,
they'll be substantially--the troops will be substantially reduced in 6
months.'' That's a bad signal to send. You know, you've got an enemy out
there listening to every word that's being said in America, so they say,
``All we've got to do is sit around, and we'll wait for 6 months and one
day.'' So when you say we'll substantially reduce our troops by 6
months, it not only affects the thinking of the enemy, it also affects
the thinking of allies.
Think about those Iraqis. Think about the Iraqi citizens who are
wondering whether or not America will keep its word. You got to
remember, this country is a country which has gone from tyranny to
freedom, and that's a hard transition to make in a quick period of time.
And they're wondering whether or not we're really willing to stand with
them as they make the hard choices necessary to get to a free society.
Let me talk about a free society. The other day I was campaigning in
Phoenix, and I saw a sign--a woman held up a sign that said, ``My son is
in Iraq.'' And it was a proud sign to hold up. And I looked at her in
the midst of this rally, and I said, ``I just want you to know, tell
your son, your son is a part of an historic moment because the world is
changing.'' And the world is changing because liberty is beginning to
spread its wings in parts of the world that is desperate for freedom.
The short-term strategy is to find this enemy and defeat them so we
don't have to face them here at home. The long-term strategy is to
spread freedom, because free societies don't export terror. Free
societies are hopeful societies. Free societies are societies that are
less likely to breed the resentment and anger necessary for killers to
recruit youngsters. That's what we're talking about, really, when you
think about it. And it has worked throughout our history. Liberty has
worked, and that's what is important for our fellow citizens to
remember.
A couple of images I want to share with you, and then I'll answer
some questions.
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One, the image of the Iraqi soccer team playing in this Olympics. It's
fantastic, isn't it? What a fantastic thought. Remember--I don't know if
you read the Sports Illustrated article about--I think it was Uday, one
of Saddam's thug sons who would torture Olympians because they weren't
able to succeed. Here's a country now, battling for a country that is
now free. It wouldn't have been free if the United States had not acted.
Secondly, I want to tell you the story, which I share a lot with
people, about having dinner with Prime Minister Koizumi. Laura and I
like him a lot. He is the Prime Minister of Japan. He's a good guy. And
you know, we're eating Kobe beef there in Tokyo and--[laughter]--pretty
fancy. You get good food when you're the President. [Laughter] And I was
really impressed during the moment to think that, you know, my dad had
fought against Japan in World War II. Many of your dads had fought
against the Japanese in World War II. They were our enemy. And here I am
talking to the leader of a former enemy, and we were talking about
peace. See, we were talking about North Korea, how best we can work
together to keep the peace. Isn't that a fantastic thought, that former
enemies are now working together for the sake of peace, for our own
security, and for world peace.
It would not have happened had my predecessors not believed in the
ability of liberty to transform societies. You might remember, after
World War II, there were a lot of people who doubted whether or not the
Japanese could self-govern, could possibly shirk their militaristic
ways, that they could possibly be a friend of the United States. But
fortunately, predecessors of mine and Gordon's and the Congressman
believed in the power of liberty to transform the attitudes and ways of
people. And because we stuck to that belief, that firm belief that is
ingrained in this Nation's soul, Japan is now an ally. Someday, an
elected leader of Iraq, whether it be Prime Minister or President, will
be sitting down with an American President talking about how to keep the
peace.
These are historic times. We're living in historic times. And by
serving the ideal of liberty, we not only serve the security of our
Nation and spread peace, but by securing the ideal of liberty, we listen
to the deepest beliefs in our soul, and that is, freedom is not
America's gift to the world; freedom is the Almighty God's gift to every
man and woman in this world.
Let me--I can keep telling stories, or I'll answer questions. Want
another story? All right, one more story, and I'll answer questions.
I'm sitting in the Oval Office; the door opens up. First of all, the
Oval Office is a powerful place. It is an unbelievably beautiful room.
It is a shrine to democracy. And it's--it quiets the most active
tongues, except for Mother. [Laughter] Anyway, so the door opens up, and
in walks seven Iraqi men. They had come to see me. A fellow called and
said, ``This is an interesting story. I think you ought to meet them.''
They came in. All of them had their right hands cut off by Saddam
Hussein. You know why? Because his currency had devalued, and he was
looking for scapegoats.
I asked one fellow, I said, ``Why you?'' Well, he was a jeweler, and
he needed gold, and he sold dinars to buy dollars or euros. In other
words, he was in the currency exchange during which the dinar had
devalued. And he got plucked out of the population, sent into the
prison, had his hand cut off, a X branded in his forehead as well. I
think they told me, if I'm not mistaken, the Government also charged him
for his time in prison.
This is a brutal thing. These seven guys have had their lives,
obviously, scarred by Saddam Hussein and his thugs. There's a
documentary made of them. And a guy in Houston, a newsman named Marvin
Zindler, who had set aside a foundation to help people who were hurting,
whether they be in America or elsewhere, saw the story, flew these guys
over to Houston, Texas, where they were outfitted with new hands, and
now they've come to see me.
And you know, what a stark contrast that is, isn't it? It's just so
vivid and such a powerful imagery to think about the difference between
a brutal tyrant who can pluck somebody out of obscurity and maim them
for life and a country that is so compassionate and decent that an
individual citizen calls them over and fits them with a new hand.
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And when the guy took the Sharpie and wrote ``God bless America'' in
Arabic, it was a powerful moment to remind me about what a wonderful
land we have. That's why I love America so much.
Let me answer some questions. Let me answer some questions, and then
I've got to head north. [Laughter] I've got a little more work to do in
Washington.
Yes, sir. Go ahead, yell her out.
Support for the President
Q. [Inaudible]
The President. Thank you very much. You can leave it at that if you
like.
Q. I'm wondering if I can get some inauguration tickets. [Laughter]
The President. Yes, that's good. [Laughter] I like an optimist.
Tax Cuts/Homeownership
Q. I started my business last October, and it was a dream. But it's
been going--[inaudible]--everybody I talk to, all my customers, they say
the same thing. If it wasn't for your tax cuts and your stimulus and
your steady hand since 9/11, my job would never happen--[inaudible]--
because of your stimulus package.
The President. Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. Let me say
something about homeownership. Do you realize that the homeownership
rate in America is at an all-time high? Isn't that a fantastic thought?
Don't you love the fact that some--more and more people are opening up
their door, saying, ``Welcome to my home. This is my piece of
property.''
One thing about this administration is, we understand that when you
own something, you have a vital stake in the future of the country. We
will continue to spread an ownership society throughout America.
What you got? Yes, ma'am. We've got to turn on the mike there. No,
you don't have to. Somebody else is supposed to. [Laughter]
Texas Air National Guard
Q. Can you hear me now?
The President. Yes, ma'am. I like the cowboy boots, strong look.
Q. I thought you might like that.
The President. Yes. Yes, it's strong.
Q. Actually, 33 years ago I was working with the Texas Air National
Guard.
The President. Oh, fantastic.
Q. From October of '71 to May of '72, you and I knew each other. So
you were there.
The President. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Good to see you again.
[Laughter]
Yes, sir. Thanks for your service, Sergeant.
2004 Campaign Events
Q. [Inaudible]
The President. Do what?
Q. Any fundraising dinners before the election?
The President. Fundraising dinners, no--sure, there will be some.
But I'd rather do these kinds of events. I want people to know what I
stand for, what I believe, where I want to lead the country. There's
more to do. I hope you leave here and walk out and say, ``What did he
say? He said there's more to do to make this country a safer, stronger,
and better place.''
Yes, sir.
Judicial Nominations
Q. Mr. President, God bless you and your wife, Laura, first of all.
The President. Thank you, sir.
Q. And I would like to know in your second term what you are going
to do to move more commonsense judges into our courts and get rid of
these--[applause].
The President. Thank you, sir. Thanks. I have a responsibility to
pick people who will represent this country admirably and strongly on
the bench. It's one of my most important duties. I picked people who
will strictly interpret the law, not use the bench from which to
legislate. That's the judicial philosophy of the people I have picked.
And I named a lot of good people from all walks of life. I named a
fellow named Miguel Estrada to the DC Circuit Court. It's an important
bench. It's a fantastic story. He came up from Honduras. He's a self-
made guy, struggled with learning a new language. He comes to this great
country. He's such a brilliant lawyer that he's nominated by the
President, and he's blocked by a handful of United States Senators.
That's the problem we have. We've
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got people playing politics with American justice, and it's not right.
And so to answer your question, I'll continue--they're not going to
intimidate me. I'll continue nominating the people--I will continue
nominating people that I know will represent my philosophy and make the
courts a better place. And the way to answer your question about what
else to do, put people like George Nethercutt in the United States
Senate.
Yes, ma'am.
President's Military Service
Q. Mr. President, you were a fighter pilot, and you were with the
147th Fighter Wing----
The President. Yes.
Q. ----and flew a very dangerous aircraft, the Delta F-102.
The President. Right. And I'm still standing.
Q. And I thank you for serving our country. [Laughter]
The President. Thank you.
Q. Thank you for serving.
The President. I appreciate you saying that.
Yes, sir.
2004 Election
Q. Mr. President, Mr. Kerry seems to have a lot of trouble
remembering dates: when and if he was in Cambodia; who was President,
Nixon or Johnson, when he was assigned to Vietnam; what bills in
Congress he worked for and when; cannot remember if he campaigned in
Oregon or California for George McGovern. Your last opponent you exposed
with fuzzy math. It's time to expose John Kerry with fuzzy memory.
The President. You got a question?
Education
Q. I, too, want to say God bless you, Mr. Bush. My husband and my
twins and I pray for you daily, as do many home-schoolers. Thank you for
recognizing home-schoolers.
The President. You bet. Thanks. Yes, I appreciate you saying that.
Listen, the best education always starts in the home. That's where it
always starts.
I tell people a lot that it's very important that we work to usher
in a culture of personal responsibility. Let me tell you what that
means. It means that if you're fortunate enough to be a mother or a
father, you are responsible for loving your child with all your heart
and all your soul. And if Laura were up here, she would say that part of
that responsibility is, start reading to your child early, is give your
child the basics of reading. And I appreciate you saying that.
And thank you for your prayers. The fact that a lot of people in
this country pray for me and Laura is heartwarming, strengthening, and a
great aspect of the American experience.
Anybody up there? Anybody in the end zone have a question?
Presidential Debates
Q. Mr. President?
The President. All right, let her rip. Yes, ma'am. Oh, you want him
to do it? You were the question gatherer-upper.
Q. [Inaudible]--Presidential debates----
The President. Presidential debates. You bet.
Q. [Inaudible]--How about having Dick Cheney do more than one this
time.
The President. Okay, well--he's going to be great. I'm looking
forward to the debates. It's going to be--a really a good chance to show
people what I believe. And it's--that's what it is. It's a chance to
stand up with Senator Kerry by my side, and he and I will talk about
what we intend to do. And it's a great opportunity for the people to
sort through the issues and to get a sense for our respective visions.
And I'm looking forward to them. It's--you know, I've done them in the
past, and I'll do them this time around. And I can't say they're a lot
of fun, but they're necessary, and they're an important part of the
process. And I appreciate the debate sponsors for putting them on.
Yes, ma'am.
Military Service/Iraq/Palestinian State
Q. Hi. My brother-in-law served under your father at Desert Storm,
Sgt. Scott Aclair. He is serving at Fort Richardson in Alaska right now
and is scheduled to go to Iraq and is just hoping that you are going to
be his President that he can serve under again when he goes back there.
And when he found out
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that I would be here, he just asked one thing, if I could shake your
hand for him.
The President. Yes, you can. You want to shake it right now? All
right.
I want you to remind your brother-in-law what I just said about his
mission. Again, I repeat, these are historic times. We're going to look
back and say, ``Thank goodness we stuck to our beliefs. Thank goodness
we had great faith and value in freedom,'' because a free Iraq right
there in the heart of the Middle East is going to speak to the hopes and
aspirations of a lot of people. There's a lot of people watching, I'm
telling you--a lot of people watching. The Iraqis are watching. They're
watching us. A lot of people are watching in the neighborhood.
You know, one of my dreams is that there be a Palestinian state, a
peaceful Palestinian state, a state that's willing to live with our
friends the Israelis, where violence isn't the norm, where violence is
not the policy, where the leaders of the Palestinians listen to the
hopes and aspirations of the Palestinian people so we can have peace in
that vital part of the world.
This is what we are talking about. These are historic times that are
going to make an enormous difference in the lives of a lot of people,
including ourselves.
Yes, sir.
John Kerry's Military Service
Q. Yes, Mr President----
The President. Yes, sir.
Q. On behalf of Vietnam veterans--and I served six tours over
there--we do support the President. I only have one concern, and that's
on the Purple Heart, and that is, is that there are over 200,000 Vietnam
vets that died from Agent Orange and were never--no Purple Heart has
ever been awarded to a Vietnam veteran because of Agent Orange because
it's never been changed in the regulations. Yet, we've got a candidate
for President out here with two self-inflicted scratches, and I take
that as an insult.
The President. Well, I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you for
your service. Six tours? Whew. That's a lot of tours.
Let's see, who've we got here? You got a question?
Freedom of Religion
Q. Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. President, for visiting Oregon. I've
heard through the grapevine that Oregon is one of the most unchurched
States in the Union, and I really feel like it shows up in every walk of
our society. Could you take a moment to pray for Oregon, for us, right
now?
The President. Well, I appreciate that. I'd--look, I think this. I
think the thing about our country that you must understand is that one
of the most valuable aspects of America is that people can choose church
or not church, and they're equally American. That is a vital part of our
society.
It's really important. It's very important that we jealously guard
that tradition of America. See, it's the ability to say, ``I believe or
don't believe,'' which, in itself, is a valuable freedom that we must
never surrender. That's what causes us to stand in stark contrast to
nations all around the world. And if you choose to believe, you're
equally American if you're Christian, Jew, Muslim, or Hindi. That's the
great thing about our country. It's this great freedom. It's the fact
that we're free to worship the way we see fit, in itself, is a vibrant
part of the soul of America. Remember, that's what--when I was talking
about the Taliban, they would drag people out in the public squares for
whippings because they did not ascribe to their dim view of religion.
And that's the opposite of what we believe in in America.
And so I appreciate what you say, but people in this country need to
honor everybody's decision they make about religion. As you know, I've
made my choice, and I--I'm--as I told you, I appreciate the prayers of
the people. And it's--the prayers are a sustaining aspect of my life.
But so long as I'm the President, and I suspect every President after
me, hopefully, will jealously guard the great freedom of religion which
is a part of our country's heritage.
You're next. No, you're not next. [Laughter] I mean, you're not up.
You're next. [Laughter]
Q. Excuse me.
The President. Sorry.
September 11
Q. Mr. President, I want to----
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The President. ----Jack in the Box. Go ahead.
Q. ----I want to thank you for everything you did after September
11th. I was in Israel then, and it was hard getting back. And it was
very devastating. And you--no one could have done what you did any
better.
The President. Thank you so much.
Q. And I want to thank you for your policies and your support and
partnership with Israel.
The President. Thank you. Thank you. So, on September the 11th, I'm
worried about my family. After we got airborne and moving around, I
called Laura. She was safe. And at some point during the day, I tried to
find my mother and father. I didn't know where they were, and I wanted
to let them know I was safe. And I finally got them on the phone. I
said, ``Where are you?'' They said, well--I think they said,
``Milwaukee, Wisconsin.'' I said, ``Oh, yeah? What are you doing
there?'' She said, ``You grounded my plane.'' [Laughter]
Yes, little fellow. What do you got? What grade are you in? Excuse
me.
Education
Q. Sixth.
The President. That-a-boy.
Q. Our superintendent makes over 200,000 a year, and he fired my
librarian. Why is that? [Laughter]
The President. Well, let me answer this by telling you--hold on for
a minute. Hold on for a minute. I believe in local control of schools.
[Laughter] The great thing is, you can find your superintendent because
he lives in the neighborhood. You couldn't find him if you were in
Washington. [Laughter] And I can't answer your question why, but Laura
was a librarian, so maybe the superintendent ought to talk to the
librarian, Laura. But no, I don't know. [Laughter]
Let's see here. Yes, you got one.
Q. Hello, Mr. President.
The President. Okay, you're last--you'll be next.
Audience member. What about me, George? [Laughter]
Advice for Entrepreneurs
Q. I'm another young entrepreneur. I work with Vail there and----
The President. You work with this guy?
Q. I work with that guy right there.
The President. Fabulous partner, I bet.
Q. He's a good guy to work with. Also, I'm a new homeowner, I
thought I'd add, one of those guys you talked about. Anyways, I was
wondering if you had specific advice for us to make sure we succeed.
The President. That's an interesting question. Let's see, make sure
your sales are bigger than your expenses. [Laughter] Don't borrow more
money than you can afford to pay back. [Laughter] Listen to your
customers. Work your customer accounts really hard. Make products or
come up with products that people actually want. Dream big, and work
hard.
You're last. You're next, I promise you. After all that exercise,
you ought to be able to ask a question. [Laughter]
2004 Election
Q. Mr. President, as a child, how can I help you get votes?
The President. Thank you. That is the kind of question I like to
hear. [Laughter] Thank you. Okay, here are some things you can do.
First, you can find--you can put signs up in people's yards who want the
signs in their yards. [Laughter] Second----
Audience member. Come and work in my county.
The President. Yes, come and work in her county. Secondly, here's
another suggestion, like, if you've got a friend who may have a older
brother or sister who is 18 years old, say to them, ``Register to vote,
and then please do me a favor, vote on my behalf for George W. Bush.''
[Laughter]
Okay, this is going to be my last question. I'm sorry. We could stay
here all day, but I've got another assignment. I've got to head up to
Washington State. I'm on the move. I'm campaigning hard. I'm working as
hard as I possibly can.
Last question.
Audience member. [Inaudible]
The President. No, I can't do it. If I did you, then they wouldn't
believe me. I said ``last question,'' and if it's the next-to-last
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question, then somebody will say, ``Wait a minute, you said last
question and you didn't do it.'' Go ahead.
Education
Q. And she should come see us because we have the Chuck-E-Cheese
restaurant, and we could make her happy.
The President. There you go. Very good. That's called selling.
[Laughter]
Q. That's right. And tagged on to that, most of our employees are 16
and 18 years old, young, hard-working kids. And the problem is they
can't afford to go to college----
The President. Yes.
Q. ----because of the funding has been cut back. How can we change
that?
The President. No, I appreciate that. It's a great question.
Actually, at the Federal level, the funding has not been cut back. Now,
maybe at the State level. But Pell grants, for example, are up. Pell
grants are grants for people to go to college. We've--since I've been
the President, a million more people have gone to college on Pell
grants. Student loans are up--student loans are up.
One of the most important initiatives that I have put forth and will
continue to push is a community college initiative. And I'll tell you
why: Because we live in a world where the jobs--the nature of the jobs
change. And these jobs require a different skill set, and there needs to
be a place where people can go back and get a different skill set to
fill these jobs. And the best place to do so is community colleges.
And we've got a lot of money in Washington, trade adjustment
assistance and displaced workers money. I happen to think it's very well
spent money to enable--whether they be younger workers or older
workers--to go back and get the skills necessary to fill new jobs. And I
think about--I've been traveling our country a lot, and I've been to
community colleges all over America. Mesa Community College in the
Phoenix area, for example, is a place I went. And a lady stood up, and
she said, ``I worked as a graphic artist for 12 years and was making X.
And I got a little help and went back to my community college and got an
associate's degree. And then I went to work,'' she said, ``for a
computer company''--and made more in her first year in her new job than
she had made in her 12th year in her old job.
In other words, what I'm telling you is, education will enhance
somebody's productivity, which enhances their pay.
So to answer your question, for 4-year colleges, help at the Federal
level is up. But for 2-year colleges, we've got specific programs aimed
at helping, whether they be these youngsters or displaced workers or
older workers, to gain skills to fill new jobs in areas such as high
tech or health care. There are jobs available in America. The thing
we've got to do is to be able to match the worker with the job. And a
great place to do so is the community college.
Listen, thanks for being here. God bless.
Note: The President spoke at 12:35 p.m. in the gymnasium. In his
remarks, he referred to former professional basketball player Chris
Dudley and his wife, Christine; former President Saddam Hussein of Iraq;
senior Al Qaida associate Abu Musab Al Zarqawi; Prime Minister Tony
Blair of the United Kingdom; and Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi of
Japan. The transcript released by the Office of the Press Secretary also
included the remarks of the First Lady, who introduced the President.
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